Thread size systems explained: Tex, denier, cotton count, metric count and ticket number

Why thread is sized by weight, not thickness; direct vs indirect systems; how Tex, denier, cotton count (Ne), metric count (Nm), ticket number and embroidery "weight" convert - plus which thread and needle suit which fabric.

3 min read · Updated 08 Oct 2026 · By Md. Saiful Islam · বাংলায় পড়ুন

"Size 40 thread" can mean three different threads, depending on who says it. Thread is not sized by its diameter - a soft, hairy thread is hard to measure with a gauge - but by the relation between length and weight, which is easy and accurate to measure.

Two families of systems

FamilyMeasuresBigger number meansSystems
Direct (fixed length)Weight of a fixed lengthThicker threadTex, dtex, denier
Indirect (fixed weight)Length in a fixed weightFiner threadCotton count (Ne), metric count (Nm), ticket number, embroidery weight

This is the main source of confusion: Tex 40 is coarser than Tex 25, but Ne 40 is finer than Ne 25.

The systems one by one

  • Tex - grams per 1,000 m. Tex 25 = 1 km weighs 25 g. ISO recommends Tex because it measures the whole finished thread, plies included. dtex = grams per 10,000 m (= Tex × 10).
  • Denier - grams per 9,000 m. Used for filament yarns (polyester, nylon, rayon). Denier = Tex × 9. Embroidery thread "120/2" means two plies of 120 denier = 240 denier.
  • Cotton count (Ne) - number of 840-yard hanks in one pound. Written per ply: 50/2 = two plies of Ne 50, which weighs the same as a single Ne 25.
  • Metric count (Nm) - kilometres per kilogram. Nm = 1,000 ÷ Tex.
  • Ticket number - a commercial label printed on cones; it is roughly 3 × the metric count of the finished thread (≈ 3,000 ÷ Tex). Ticket 120 ≈ Tex 25, ticket 80 ≈ Tex 35-40.
  • Embroidery "weight" (wt) - km per kg of the whole thread. 40 wt = Tex 25 = 225 denier.

Conversion formulas

From → ToFormula
Denier → TexTex = Denier ÷ 9 (× 0.111)
Tex → DenierDenier = Tex × 9
Ne (cotton count) → TexTex = 590.5 ÷ Ne
Tex → NeNe = 590.5 ÷ Tex
Nm → TexTex = 1,000 ÷ Nm
Weight (wt) → TexTex = 1,000 ÷ wt
Weight (wt) → DenierDenier = 9,000 ÷ wt
Ne plied (e.g. 50/2) → resultant Ne50 ÷ 2 = Ne 25 → Tex ≈ 23.6

Formula: 40 wt = Tex 25 = 225 denier = Nm 40

Which thread for which fabric

A general guide by fabric weight (always confirm with your thread supplier and the buyer's standard):

Fabric weight (g/m²)Typical fabricsThread size
65 - 135Voile, poplin, light jerseyTex 16 - 24
135 - 200Shirting, single jersey, interlockTex 24 - 30
200 - 270Twill, light denim, fleeceTex 30 - 50
270 - 340Drill, medium denimTex 40 - 60
340 - 475Heavy denim, canvas, workwearTex 60 - 135

Needle size

As a rule the needle eye should be about 40% larger than the thread. Tex 25 (40 wt) usually runs on Nm 75-80 (size 11-12); a heavier Tex 30-35 needs Nm 90-100 (size 14-16). A thicker thread also pushes the tension discs apart, so re-check tension whenever you change thread size.

Avoiding mistakes in tech packs

  • Always write the system name with the number: "Tex 27", never just "27".
  • For cotton count always give the ply: "Ne 40/2".
  • Use one system through the whole tech pack - Tex if possible.
  • Do not confuse cotton count with ticket number, or metric count with metric ticket.
  • When in doubt, send a physical thread sample with the order.

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